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Hi Ugly,
How do I respond to my friends when they criticize their bodies, faces, skin?
One friend frequently complains about her weight. It would feel preachy to tell her that she’s supporting the beauty industrial complex and reinforcing a status quo that keeps women fixated on their physical appearance. But saying, “You’re beautiful!” feels shallow. Another friend told me she needs to get more Botox soon because she hates the lines in her forehead. I told her (honestly) that I don’t see any lines, but she blew me off, saying it was the wrong lighting and I was being too generous.
How do I navigate these conversations?
– Conversationally Confused
The only thing contemporary beauty culture hates more than an ugly woman? A judgy woman – particularly if she has an opinion about other women’s beauty behaviors. These days, any criticism of cosmetics must conclude with the disclaimer: “No judgment, though!”
I personally think we’d all benefit from harsher judgment of the oppressive standards sustaining the $427bn diet industry and $700bn beauty industry, but I also think you’re right. When a friend tells you she’s worried about her weight, “you’re an agent of the patriarchy” isn’t a helpful response.
“You’re beautiful!” isn’t great, either – it reinforces the idea that individual beauty is the solution to the insecurity that beauty culture breeds in us all. Yes, your looks do determine your worth, you might as well say. But you look good, so it’s not your problem!
It’s been a minute since I’ve had to navigate a situation like this myself. (When you’re a curmudgeonly industry critic, your community knows exactly where you stand on the subject of skin-plumping salmon sperm injections – works like a charm!) So I reached out to some colleagues to get their takes.
“These moments can feel like the perfect opening to challenge beauty standards,” says beauty reporter Zeynab Mohamed. “But in reality, they’re rarely the right time for that kind of conversation and can go very wrong.” Instead, she says, “listen without judgment, and without overcompensating with compliments.”
Exchanges like these are signs to strike up more beauty-related discourse. “The key is to make conversations more frequent, so they don’t feel like an attack,” Mohamed says. Rather than pegging these chats to their (or your) perceived aesthetic shortcomings, “be more intentional about having [general] conversations around the beauty industry, the pressure we internalize and the standards we work so hard to meet and maintain.”
Invite a friend over to watch The Substance or American Psycho and break down the beauty themes over a bottle of wine after. Drop a critical book or podcast episode in the group chat. (“Unshrinking by Kate Manne blew my mind! Anyone want to read and discuss?”) Share this Tressie McMillan Cottom video about the “everyday eugenics” of GLP-1s to your Instagram story and see who responds.
Another option: connect and commiserate. “I don’t try to dissuade them from their perspective … because I will never be more persuasive than the critical voice that lives in their head,” beauty journalist Val Monroe shares. “But I tell them how I respond to my own occasional dissatisfaction with my appearance, which, for the most part, involves turning outward.”
How have you dealt with your dissatisfaction? Share it with the class! It can be as simple as, I know what you mean. I was so fixated on my crow’s feet on a Zoom call once that I had to disable the mirror video function and meditate for 20 minutes after work. It actually helped! Cheaper than a red light mask, anyway.
Virginia Sole-Smith, writer of the body liberation newsletter Burnt Toast, recommends adopting a “hate the game, not the player” mentality. “I try to lean into responses like: ‘Wouldn’t it be cool if we didn’t have to devote so much time and money to all of this?’”
It’s also fine to not engage. “If the friend talks about these things in ways that you find triggering, I think it’s very valid to say: ‘Sorry, I love you but I’m just not the friend for Botox talk,’” Sole-Smith says. “Set that boundary.”
If your discussion partner seems down for debate, “try to move the conversation toward the politics behind it”, suggests Moshtari Hilal, author of Ugliness. “Instead of reassuring friends that they’re beautiful, I ask why it matters so much to them,” she says. “‘Would you love or respect me less if my appearance changed? Do you deserve to be treated better for having youthful skin or a symmetrical face?”
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No, these aren’t easy questions. Yes, they could lead to some tough talks. Most modern beauty standards have roots in white supremacy, colonialism, capitalism, sexism and other destructive forces. But, as Hilal puts it, don’t you “expect a certain depth and integrity in [your] friendships?”
Breaking the pattern of “appearance talk” could benefit all involved. This negative commentary about bodies and faces permeates society. Think of your mother calling herself “bad” for ordering dessert or the self-critique-as-social-bonding scene in Mean Girls. But it isn’t innocuous. Research shows that participating in or simply listening to appearance talk can increase body dissatisfaction and anxiety, which may in turn lead to harmful diet and beauty behaviors.
“These ideas are contagious,” Hilal says.
Could shifting negativity away from individual bodies and faces and toward systems and structures be contagious too? Of course. Second-wave feminists called it “consciousness-raising”. Gabbing with your girlfriends about the ageism inherent in anti-ageing won’t change the world – organizing and legislating against discrimination does that – but it could help externalize the shame of beauty culture, challenge false beliefs and alleviate appearance anxiety.
Some friends might not be into analyzing Ozempic via text. Maybe your Botox-loving BFF wants a compliment on her freshly frozen forehead and nothing more. It’s up to you how to handle that.
Hilal finds it tough to be around people who fixate on, say, wrinkles or body shape. “If your fear of ‘ugliness’ doesn’t lead to care or compassion, but to reproducing those standards as its salesman, I need to take a step back from the relationship.”
Hey – no judgment here.
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In the opening half an hour against Cape Verde, Mikel Oyarzabal, the centre-forward, did not get a single touch.
Kyle Green gets in touch: “Your highlighting of Lalas and his absurdity is something that has prevented me from wanting to watch the coverage on Fox. While every channel has its pros and cons I just can’t.
“I’m 45 and probably the youngest of anyone who remembers him as a player instead of an opinionated insert insult here. As for the match this could be more competitive than it looks on paper Spain need a win the pressure is on them. Saudi Arabia could hold out for a draw and see what happens in their last match. “
News from the England camp, and it seems to be good news on Declan Rice.
“I’m ready and fit, raring to go. I was feeling a little bit of neural pain in my hamstring, which I was managing from after Christmas with Arsenal for a very long time. Obviously, not a lot of people would have known that. It was all behind-the-scenes stuff but it was a smart decision.
“In the end, that last 20 minutes is probably where you pick up the most, and it’s where you play a 70-minute match. But that last 20 is where you really feel your body going for it. And I think it was a smart decision because the last few days I felt really, really good.”
Alex Reid has penned today’s weekend special Football Daily.
Portugal v Uzbekistan on Tuesday enticingly pits the incredibly nice, incredibly 41-year-old-superstar-tolerant Roberto Martínez against Fabio Cannavaro, who’s won a Ballon d’Or as a player and the Chinese Super League as a coach. While the fixture following that game really does see the dream of Thomas Tuchel – in his first international job with England – taking on Queiroz, who is in charge of his ninth national side with Ghana.
The expected formations are 4-2-3-1 for Spain, and 5-3-2 for the Saudi Arabians.
The Saudi team features two Donis changes: Ali Lajami, a defender, and Nasser Al Dawsari, a midfielder, are preferred to Mohammed Abu Al Shamat and Mohamed Kanno. You may recall Salem Al Dawsari, the Saudi captain, as the man who scored the winner against Argentina.
An entertaining read, even for those of us who have just seen the clips.
In a conversation where his co-panelist is casually reminiscing about his days playing alongside Messi or exchanging shirts with Ronaldo Nazário at the World Cup, what exactly is Lalas going to talk about – coming on as a second-half substitute for Earnie Stewart in a friendly against Scotland in 1998? Helping the Kansas City Wizards finish last in the 1999 MLS Western Conference? Did Lalas enjoy an elite playing career? No. But does he do the background reading that could compensate for his relative lack of standing in a conversation with titans like Henry and Zlatan? Also no. But is he charming or funny or charismatic or otherwise magnetic on screen? Eh, no.
For the record, I once interviewed Alexi Lalas on the challenge of playing against Romario in the 1994 World Cup. He had this to say:
“He could kill you in so many different ways. If you remember from that World Cup, he scored so many types of goals. That ranged from solo adventures to an outside-of-the-right-foot half-volley off a corner kick. Romario was both the most difficult to play against and the best that I have faced.
“Roberto Baggio was doing his thing, but in terms of consistency and living up to the hype, he [Romario] was the best. As with all stars, there was a moment when the fans sit up in their seats, and that was a feeling I got with Romario. When it got close to him and the potential for his involvement in a play was there, everybody sat up in their seat. They knew that something spectacular would be happening.”
Saturday’s match reports here.
The Saudi Arabia coach, and Blackburn legend, Georgios Donis, spoke about the challenges facing his team: “Spain is not the same team when Yamal or Williams are on the bench.
“While they still have plenty of possession, they lack the individual one-on-one penetration when these two are missing. I’m not saying it’s a problem for Spain, but when those players are missing, they play in a different way. We saw this very clearly against Cape Verde.
“We are playing against one of the best teams in the world, and it’s very important that when you play against these kinds of teams, you should enjoy the experience and respect the opponent, but not too much.
“It is very hard for any team playing against Spain to have any time in possession. So what we must do is to be more in control of our movement and compact, and when the ball goes through the lines, be able to defend dynamically.
“It’s nice to see miracles in football, and we’ve seen favourites losing against underdogs. Of course, it’s great for Saudi football to have a great memory of the result against Argentina, but we aren’t drawing anything from that.
“I think we’ll feel more pressure in that [Cape Verde] game than we will against Spain.”
The Spain coach, Luis De La Fuente had this to say in his Saturday press conference: “This generation of footballers is highly competitive and really fired up… It’s going to be a completely different story,” he said at his pre-match press conference on Saturday. There is no drama or crisis. The bottom line is simply that we need to win tomorrow.”
Four changes for Spain: Lamine Yamal, Pedro Porro, Dani Olmo and Alex Baena also come into the side with Marcos Llorente, Fabian Ruiz, Ferran Torres and Gavi dropping out.
The teams – Lamine Yamal starts
Spain: Simon, Porro, Cubarsi, Laporte, Cucurella, Gonzalez, Rodri, Yamal, Olmo, Baena, Oyarzabal. Subs: Raya, Joan Garcia, Pubill, Grimaldo, Eric Garcia, Llorente, Merino, Torres, Fabian, Gavi, Pino, Williams, Zubimendi, Munoz, Iglesias.
Saudi Arabia: Al Owais, Abdulhamid, Tambakti, Lajami, Al Amri, Al Harbi, Nasser Al Dawsari, Al Khaibari, Al Juwayr, Al Buraikan, Salem Al Dawsari. Subs: Al Aqidi, Al Kassar, Majrashi, Yahya, Al Shehri, Al Boushal, Kadesh, Al Johani, Al Ghannam, Al Hajji, Al Hamdan, Mandash, Kanno, Thakri, Abu Al Shamat.
Referee: Raphael Claus (Brazil)
Perhaps one of the Saudi -players can write themselves into this high-grade selection?
Perhaps it can be their goalkeeper.
Madrid screening of Spain v Saudi Arabia cancelled due to heat
The public screening of Spain’s World Cup match against Saudi Arabia in Madrid on Sunday has been cancelled because of extreme heat forecast for the Spanish capital, officials said.
The match, due to kick off at 6pm local time on Sunday, had been scheduled to be shown on a giant screen installed by the Spanish football federation (RFEF) at a fan zone in Plaza de Colón in central Madrid.
Madrid city council and the federation decided to cancel the screening after national weather agency AEMET issued an orange heat warning – the second-highest level – for the Madrid region, with temperatures forecast to reach 40C.
“The decision has been taken with the aim of protecting the health of attendees, event staff and support services involved in the event,” Madrid city hall said in a statement, apologising for any inconvenience.
Officials urged supporters to watch the match indoors in air-conditioned spaces and avoid prolonged exposure to the heat.
Large parts of Spain are experiencing unusually high temperatures for June as a mass of hot air from North Africa moves across the Iberian Peninsula.
A total of 13 of Spain’s 17 regions are on orange alert for heat on Sunday, while the northern Basque Country bordering France is on red alert, the highest level.
Authorities advised residents and visitors to take precautions during the heatwave, including drinking water regularly, staying in cool environments, limiting outdoor physical activity during the hottest hours of the day and taking extra care of vulnerable people. AFP
Can Saudi Arabia repeat the magic of 2022?
Argentina arrived in Qatar on a 36-game unbeaten run. When Lionel Messi opened the scoring from the penalty spot after 10 minutes, a comfortable afternoon seemed in the offing. Saleh al-Shehri and Salem al-Dawsari had other ideas, Argentina had three goals disallowed for offside in the space of 13 minutes and the greatest comeback in Saudi Arabia football history was made. Argentina went on to lift the trophy, while defeats to Poland and Mexico meant the Saudis did not reach the knock-out stage.
Unai Simon over David Raya is a controversial choice for De la Fuentes. The Arsenal keeper could lay claim to being Europe’s best this season.
“Those at the Champions League final had a few more days, so I got there on the Wednesday night,” Raya says. “I arrived a bit before Fabián [Ruiz]. I was saying hello to some of the others in reception when he arrived. I went to say congratulations; that was almost the first thing I did. I couldn’t really talk [to him] after the final; I just didn’t have it in me. The next day we talked about the game properly. Just two mates chatting … I was happy for him that he could lift the trophy for a second time.”
A high pressure game for the European champions, as Sid Lowe reports.
“If we had scored one, the game would have changed,” Martín Zubimendi said. Immediately after the game, De la Fuente had offered a simple analysis: when the ball doesn’t want to go in it doesn’t want to go in, he insisted. Spain had racked up 27 shots, after all. Ferran Torres had hit the bar and seen another clear opportunity saved. Vozinha, the 40-year-old goalkeeper who stopped that, saved six more and was named the man of the match. “There’s nothing to reproach the team for,” Rodri said. “We generated chances but couldn’t put it away; the good thing is they created almost nothing.”
We wait to see what role Lamine Yamal will play today. His coach would surely like to be able to use him.
The worst mistake we could make would be to compare him to anyone. He is the midst of a process. He has exceptional footballing maturity and lives it all with total naturalness. He has great serenity and strength. We have to let him follow his path but those players who have something different are ready for that. They’re geniuses, like Dalí [who] can paint a picture, or Michelangelo. They’re different. What is exceptional to us, isn’t to them. In those extremes, they feel comfortable. Why? Because they are different. What we think is exceptional, they consider normal.
Preamble
Spain’s campaign did not get off to a flying start, and Luis de la Fuentes may wake up in the night to visions of Cape Verde’s Vozinha. He will have Georgia on his mind ever since Monday. Saudi Arabia are no pushovers and gave Uruguay a scare in their opening match. Memories of downing Argentina four years ago still abound, and so Spain might beware. They can ill afford to go into the final game with Uruguay at a disadvantage. All eyes on Lamine Yamal, whose fitness situation remains opaque, though Spain need their other forwards to come to the party.
Kick-off 5pm UK, 1pm ET, 2am AEST. Join me.
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