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Lammy says he told JD Vance that Nowak case had ‘nothing to do with mass migration’
On Friday evening, the US vice-president, JD Vance, blamed Henry Nowak’s murder on the “mass invasion of migrants” and said the “only response” was “righteous anger”, prompting a rebuke from Downing Street which hit out at “people trying to interfere in our democracy and seeking to stir up division”.
The UK justice secretary and deputy prime minister, David Lammy, revealed to Sky News’ Trevor Phillips that he spoke to Vance yesterday following his intervention. Lammy, who is rumoured to be good friends with the vice-president, said:
I spoke to the vice president yesterday, and I wanted to emphasise a number of things.
The first is that our democratic process is working well. This young man has been convicted. There is an investigation into the police by the Independent Police (Conduct)Authority.
There is an investigation into Hampshire Police by the inspectorate. The (attorney general) is looking at the sentencing in relation to this. The national police chiefs are looking at the guidance in relation to this.
The second thing was I disagree with him. This has got nothing to do with mass migration. This young man was a Brit. Let’s be clear about that. And I said, ‘look, Mr vice president, you’re wrong about this’.
And it’s also the case that actually murder is coming down in the United Kingdom. So we had an agreeable conversation. But we disagree.
Asked how Vance reacted, Lammy said the vice-president has a “longstanding concern about what he calls western values”, adding that the conversation ended very amicably.
“I also urged him that it’s not helpful to tweet in this way, partly because of what the Nowak family have asked for, and reminded him about their desire not to make this an issue of division and hatred but to make this an issue of common sense.”
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Laura Kuenssberg moves onto pressing David Lammy on defence after MPs warned the government’s delay in publishing the Defence Investment Plan (DIP) undermined the UK’s credibility with its allies at a time of rising global conflict threat.
The justice secretary said the UK’s prime minister, Keir Starmer, is meeting with allies today (when he will host Volodymyr Zelensky, Emmanuel Macron and Friedrich Merz in No 10 to discuss ongoing support for Ukraine), adding that 1,400 new defence contracts have been granted since Labour came into power in July 2024, with £270bn to be invested in defence by the next election, which must be called by August 2029.
“More spending on defence than any year under the Tories, under this government,” Lammy told the BBC.
When asked if he would be happy to give up some of his budget within the justice department for defence spending, Lammy swerved directly answering the question.
Instead, he said: “The first purpose of any government is defence of the nation. I am not going to comment on the discussions I have with the Treasury.”
Speaking to Laura Kuenssberg on her Sunday politics programme on the BBC, David Lammy said ethnic minorities are disproportionately in the criminal justice system, so “context can matter” but it “cannot eclipse violence”.
Asked if the police should take into account the colour of someone’s skin, the justice secretary said:
We are all equal before the law, so that is not the starting point, but it is the case, recognising that in our country it is still the case that on arrest, on prosecution, conviction, I’m afraid, in our prisons, ethnic minorities are disproportionately in the criminal justice system.
So, context can matter, but it cannot eclipse violence or the fact that we need our police to act to mitigate and deal with crimes in our communities, whatever the colour of your skin or background.
Lammy went on to say that he doesn’t agree there is “two-tier” policing in the UK, a claim propagated by the right which suggests police deal more harshly with white people than other ethnic groups.
Nigel Farage, the Reform party leader, said Hampshire police’s treatment of Nowak was proof of “a two-tier culture in this country, where the rights and privileges of white people matter less than those of ethnic minorities”. In fact, as my colleagues note in this story, recent figures show Hampshire police officers are more than five times more likely to stop and search black people than white people.
The attorney general’s office is considering the jail sentence given to Vickrum Digwa after receiving “multiple requests” to review it under the unduly lenient sentence (ULS) scheme.
As we mentioned in the opening post, Vickrum Digwa, 23, was jailed for life with a minimum of 21 years on Monday for murdering Henry Nowak in Southampton last December.
Trevor Phillips asked David Lammy if he thinks the attorney general will take it for review, to which the justice secretary replied: “He is considering that as we speak”.
David Lammy said wherever there is “privilege” it can be “taken away if it doesn’t command the full confidence of the public”, when asked about the blade Vickrum Digwa used to murder Henry Nowak.
Asked whether it is “time to review the issue of whether the blade he (the killer) claims was religious, the 8in one, is permissible”, the justice secretary told Sky News:
I think it’s important to emphasise he claimed that. There is doubt as to whether this was religious, this 8in blade that was used, one, and two, you cannot carry a blade that is used in any way to harm life, that is illegal in our country, whatever the circumstances.
In the end, where exceptions are made of this kind, whether it’s for Scots or whether it’s for Sikhs. It is a privilege to be able to enjoy that with the confidence of the public.
Now, right across the country, Sikhs, Scots, for ceremonial purposes, cultural purposes, carrying relatively small blades goes on peacefully every single day of the week, and we should remember that.
But it is a privilege, and wherever there’s privilege, that can be taken away if it doesn’t command the full confidence of the public.
Under UK law a person can possess a kirpan for religious, ceremonial, sporting or historical reasons. But, like any bladed article, a kirpan can become an offensive weapon if it is used unlawfully, as my colleague Aamna Mohdin notes in this useful explainer.
Watching Nowak bodycam footage brought back memories of George Floyd, Lammy says
David Lammy said seeing the bodycam footage of the arrest of Henry Nowak – after the student had been repeatedly stabbed – was “deeply traumatic”.
Lammy, who has two sons and one daughter, explained to Sky News:
I thought of my own sons around the same age. It brought back memories of George Floyd, of Stephen Lawrence.
It was so painful, so harrowing, so horrendous – and my heart goes out to that family for the grace and dignity with which they are now having to conduct their lives sort of in the full lights basically of not just UK attention on this but now global attention on this desperate, desperate tragedy.
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Lammy says he told JD Vance that Nowak case had ‘nothing to do with mass migration’
On Friday evening, the US vice-president, JD Vance, blamed Henry Nowak’s murder on the “mass invasion of migrants” and said the “only response” was “righteous anger”, prompting a rebuke from Downing Street which hit out at “people trying to interfere in our democracy and seeking to stir up division”.
The UK justice secretary and deputy prime minister, David Lammy, revealed to Sky News’ Trevor Phillips that he spoke to Vance yesterday following his intervention. Lammy, who is rumoured to be good friends with the vice-president, said:
I spoke to the vice president yesterday, and I wanted to emphasise a number of things.
The first is that our democratic process is working well. This young man has been convicted. There is an investigation into the police by the Independent Police (Conduct)Authority.
There is an investigation into Hampshire Police by the inspectorate. The (attorney general) is looking at the sentencing in relation to this. The national police chiefs are looking at the guidance in relation to this.
The second thing was I disagree with him. This has got nothing to do with mass migration. This young man was a Brit. Let’s be clear about that. And I said, ‘look, Mr vice president, you’re wrong about this’.
And it’s also the case that actually murder is coming down in the United Kingdom. So we had an agreeable conversation. But we disagree.
Asked how Vance reacted, Lammy said the vice-president has a “longstanding concern about what he calls western values”, adding that the conversation ended very amicably.
“I also urged him that it’s not helpful to tweet in this way, partly because of what the Nowak family have asked for, and reminded him about their desire not to make this an issue of division and hatred but to make this an issue of common sense.”
Police planned intervention during trial of Henry Nowak’s killer – report
Good morning and welcome to our live coverage of UK politics. The justice secretary, David Lammy, is being interviewed by the BBC and Sky News this morning and will likely be asked about the future of police reform in the wake of the murder of 18-year-old Henry Nowak.
The case has come under fresh scrutiny today with a report in the Sunday Times revealing that Hampshire and Isle of Wight Constabulary tried to intervene during the trial of Nowak’s killer but were warned by the Crown Prosecution Service it could jeopardise the case.
The police force wanted to release a statement to address what it described as online “disinformation” while court proceedings were at a critical point against Vickrum Digwa, according to the report.
It is understood the statement contained information about the process of a court case, reminded people that nothing could be published that could prejudice legal proceedings, and said that police would answer questions once the trial was complete.
A CPS spokesperson said:
The CPS highlighted to the police that protecting the integrity of the ongoing trial was essential, and of the risks of referring to any aspect of the evidence before it had been heard by the court and the case had been summed up by the judge to the jury.
However, it was made clear that whether a statement was released was ultimately a police operational decision.
Nowak, a first-year accountancy and finance student at the University of Southampton, was fatally stabbed in Southampton last December by Digwa, 23, after a night out with friends.
When police arrived at the murder scene, Digwa falsely claimed Nowak had racially abused him and knocked his turban off. Nowak was handcuffed and arrested despite telling officers he had been stabbed and could not breathe.
Digwa was given a life sentence with a minimum of 21 years in prison for stabbing Nowak with a ceremonial knife with a 21cm blade, which he carried as part of his Sikh religion.
Hampshire police have apologised for their actions, which received global attention after being criticised by the owner of X, Elon Musk, and senior politicians in the Trump administration, and led to violent disorder in Southampton last week.
Hampshire police have been subjected to accusations of “two-tier justice” and anti-white bias after the murder of Nowak despite data discrediting claims that UK police actions disadvantage white people.
The family of Shaun Burton, say they are “devastated” by the loss.
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In the opening half an hour against Cape Verde, Mikel Oyarzabal, the centre-forward, did not get a single touch.
Kyle Green gets in touch: “Your highlighting of Lalas and his absurdity is something that has prevented me from wanting to watch the coverage on Fox. While every channel has its pros and cons I just can’t.
“I’m 45 and probably the youngest of anyone who remembers him as a player instead of an opinionated insert insult here. As for the match this could be more competitive than it looks on paper Spain need a win the pressure is on them. Saudi Arabia could hold out for a draw and see what happens in their last match. “
News from the England camp, and it seems to be good news on Declan Rice.
“I’m ready and fit, raring to go. I was feeling a little bit of neural pain in my hamstring, which I was managing from after Christmas with Arsenal for a very long time. Obviously, not a lot of people would have known that. It was all behind-the-scenes stuff but it was a smart decision.
“In the end, that last 20 minutes is probably where you pick up the most, and it’s where you play a 70-minute match. But that last 20 is where you really feel your body going for it. And I think it was a smart decision because the last few days I felt really, really good.”
Alex Reid has penned today’s weekend special Football Daily.
Portugal v Uzbekistan on Tuesday enticingly pits the incredibly nice, incredibly 41-year-old-superstar-tolerant Roberto Martínez against Fabio Cannavaro, who’s won a Ballon d’Or as a player and the Chinese Super League as a coach. While the fixture following that game really does see the dream of Thomas Tuchel – in his first international job with England – taking on Queiroz, who is in charge of his ninth national side with Ghana.
The expected formations are 4-2-3-1 for Spain, and 5-3-2 for the Saudi Arabians.
The Saudi team features two Donis changes: Ali Lajami, a defender, and Nasser Al Dawsari, a midfielder, are preferred to Mohammed Abu Al Shamat and Mohamed Kanno. You may recall Salem Al Dawsari, the Saudi captain, as the man who scored the winner against Argentina.
An entertaining read, even for those of us who have just seen the clips.
In a conversation where his co-panelist is casually reminiscing about his days playing alongside Messi or exchanging shirts with Ronaldo Nazário at the World Cup, what exactly is Lalas going to talk about – coming on as a second-half substitute for Earnie Stewart in a friendly against Scotland in 1998? Helping the Kansas City Wizards finish last in the 1999 MLS Western Conference? Did Lalas enjoy an elite playing career? No. But does he do the background reading that could compensate for his relative lack of standing in a conversation with titans like Henry and Zlatan? Also no. But is he charming or funny or charismatic or otherwise magnetic on screen? Eh, no.
For the record, I once interviewed Alexi Lalas on the challenge of playing against Romario in the 1994 World Cup. He had this to say:
“He could kill you in so many different ways. If you remember from that World Cup, he scored so many types of goals. That ranged from solo adventures to an outside-of-the-right-foot half-volley off a corner kick. Romario was both the most difficult to play against and the best that I have faced.
“Roberto Baggio was doing his thing, but in terms of consistency and living up to the hype, he [Romario] was the best. As with all stars, there was a moment when the fans sit up in their seats, and that was a feeling I got with Romario. When it got close to him and the potential for his involvement in a play was there, everybody sat up in their seat. They knew that something spectacular would be happening.”
Saturday’s match reports here.
The Saudi Arabia coach, and Blackburn legend, Georgios Donis, spoke about the challenges facing his team: “Spain is not the same team when Yamal or Williams are on the bench.
“While they still have plenty of possession, they lack the individual one-on-one penetration when these two are missing. I’m not saying it’s a problem for Spain, but when those players are missing, they play in a different way. We saw this very clearly against Cape Verde.
“We are playing against one of the best teams in the world, and it’s very important that when you play against these kinds of teams, you should enjoy the experience and respect the opponent, but not too much.
“It is very hard for any team playing against Spain to have any time in possession. So what we must do is to be more in control of our movement and compact, and when the ball goes through the lines, be able to defend dynamically.
“It’s nice to see miracles in football, and we’ve seen favourites losing against underdogs. Of course, it’s great for Saudi football to have a great memory of the result against Argentina, but we aren’t drawing anything from that.
“I think we’ll feel more pressure in that [Cape Verde] game than we will against Spain.”
The Spain coach, Luis De La Fuente had this to say in his Saturday press conference: “This generation of footballers is highly competitive and really fired up… It’s going to be a completely different story,” he said at his pre-match press conference on Saturday. There is no drama or crisis. The bottom line is simply that we need to win tomorrow.”
Four changes for Spain: Lamine Yamal, Pedro Porro, Dani Olmo and Alex Baena also come into the side with Marcos Llorente, Fabian Ruiz, Ferran Torres and Gavi dropping out.
The teams – Lamine Yamal starts
Spain: Simon, Porro, Cubarsi, Laporte, Cucurella, Gonzalez, Rodri, Yamal, Olmo, Baena, Oyarzabal. Subs: Raya, Joan Garcia, Pubill, Grimaldo, Eric Garcia, Llorente, Merino, Torres, Fabian, Gavi, Pino, Williams, Zubimendi, Munoz, Iglesias.
Saudi Arabia: Al Owais, Abdulhamid, Tambakti, Lajami, Al Amri, Al Harbi, Nasser Al Dawsari, Al Khaibari, Al Juwayr, Al Buraikan, Salem Al Dawsari. Subs: Al Aqidi, Al Kassar, Majrashi, Yahya, Al Shehri, Al Boushal, Kadesh, Al Johani, Al Ghannam, Al Hajji, Al Hamdan, Mandash, Kanno, Thakri, Abu Al Shamat.
Referee: Raphael Claus (Brazil)
Perhaps one of the Saudi -players can write themselves into this high-grade selection?
Perhaps it can be their goalkeeper.
Madrid screening of Spain v Saudi Arabia cancelled due to heat
The public screening of Spain’s World Cup match against Saudi Arabia in Madrid on Sunday has been cancelled because of extreme heat forecast for the Spanish capital, officials said.
The match, due to kick off at 6pm local time on Sunday, had been scheduled to be shown on a giant screen installed by the Spanish football federation (RFEF) at a fan zone in Plaza de Colón in central Madrid.
Madrid city council and the federation decided to cancel the screening after national weather agency AEMET issued an orange heat warning – the second-highest level – for the Madrid region, with temperatures forecast to reach 40C.
“The decision has been taken with the aim of protecting the health of attendees, event staff and support services involved in the event,” Madrid city hall said in a statement, apologising for any inconvenience.
Officials urged supporters to watch the match indoors in air-conditioned spaces and avoid prolonged exposure to the heat.
Large parts of Spain are experiencing unusually high temperatures for June as a mass of hot air from North Africa moves across the Iberian Peninsula.
A total of 13 of Spain’s 17 regions are on orange alert for heat on Sunday, while the northern Basque Country bordering France is on red alert, the highest level.
Authorities advised residents and visitors to take precautions during the heatwave, including drinking water regularly, staying in cool environments, limiting outdoor physical activity during the hottest hours of the day and taking extra care of vulnerable people. AFP
Can Saudi Arabia repeat the magic of 2022?
Argentina arrived in Qatar on a 36-game unbeaten run. When Lionel Messi opened the scoring from the penalty spot after 10 minutes, a comfortable afternoon seemed in the offing. Saleh al-Shehri and Salem al-Dawsari had other ideas, Argentina had three goals disallowed for offside in the space of 13 minutes and the greatest comeback in Saudi Arabia football history was made. Argentina went on to lift the trophy, while defeats to Poland and Mexico meant the Saudis did not reach the knock-out stage.
Unai Simon over David Raya is a controversial choice for De la Fuentes. The Arsenal keeper could lay claim to being Europe’s best this season.
“Those at the Champions League final had a few more days, so I got there on the Wednesday night,” Raya says. “I arrived a bit before Fabián [Ruiz]. I was saying hello to some of the others in reception when he arrived. I went to say congratulations; that was almost the first thing I did. I couldn’t really talk [to him] after the final; I just didn’t have it in me. The next day we talked about the game properly. Just two mates chatting … I was happy for him that he could lift the trophy for a second time.”
A high pressure game for the European champions, as Sid Lowe reports.
“If we had scored one, the game would have changed,” Martín Zubimendi said. Immediately after the game, De la Fuente had offered a simple analysis: when the ball doesn’t want to go in it doesn’t want to go in, he insisted. Spain had racked up 27 shots, after all. Ferran Torres had hit the bar and seen another clear opportunity saved. Vozinha, the 40-year-old goalkeeper who stopped that, saved six more and was named the man of the match. “There’s nothing to reproach the team for,” Rodri said. “We generated chances but couldn’t put it away; the good thing is they created almost nothing.”
We wait to see what role Lamine Yamal will play today. His coach would surely like to be able to use him.
The worst mistake we could make would be to compare him to anyone. He is the midst of a process. He has exceptional footballing maturity and lives it all with total naturalness. He has great serenity and strength. We have to let him follow his path but those players who have something different are ready for that. They’re geniuses, like Dalí [who] can paint a picture, or Michelangelo. They’re different. What is exceptional to us, isn’t to them. In those extremes, they feel comfortable. Why? Because they are different. What we think is exceptional, they consider normal.
Preamble
Spain’s campaign did not get off to a flying start, and Luis de la Fuentes may wake up in the night to visions of Cape Verde’s Vozinha. He will have Georgia on his mind ever since Monday. Saudi Arabia are no pushovers and gave Uruguay a scare in their opening match. Memories of downing Argentina four years ago still abound, and so Spain might beware. They can ill afford to go into the final game with Uruguay at a disadvantage. All eyes on Lamine Yamal, whose fitness situation remains opaque, though Spain need their other forwards to come to the party.
Kick-off 5pm UK, 1pm ET, 2am AEST. Join me.
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