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‘Your questions are designed to trick me’: combative Musk grilled over battle with Sam Altman | Technology
After a dramatic first day of opening statements and testimony from Elon Musk in his case against Sam Altman and OpenAI, the trial continued on Wednesday with a cross-examination of the Tesla CEO. Musk began his second day of on the stand by repeating the accusation that Altman “stole a charity” and would endanger humanity with AI multiple times. OpenAI’s attorneys pressed the world’s richest man on his allegations, resulting in testy exchanges and multiple interventions from the judge.
Musk often refused to answer questions as instructed, and the judge interjected several times to tell Musk to simply give a yes-or-no response. At various points, Musk told OpenAI’s counsel, “You’re being misleading with your question,” and “Your questions are not simple, they are designed to trick me, essentially.”
Musk accuses his OpenAI co-founders Altman and Greg Brockman of breaking the founding agreement of the company to build AI to benefit humanity, instead shifting the non-profit to a for-profit structure and unjustly enriching themselves along the way. He is seeking the removal of Altman and Brockman, the undoing of the for-profit conversion, and $134bn in damages, which he wants redistributed to OpenAI’s non-profit arm.
OpenAI has rejected Musk’s claims as “motivated by jealousy”, stating that he was always aware of plans for the business and that he left OpenAI in 2018 only after a failed bid to take it over. The company holds that what Musk describes as his $38m investment into the non-profit was actually a tax-deductible donation, and does not entitle him to any say over the firm. OpenAI also emphasizes that it is still overseen by the original non-profit.
Musk first took the stand on Tuesday after his lawyer, Steven Molo, called him to testify. Musk largely rehashed his career and answered a series of softball questions from Molo, which led to Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers repeatedly admonishing Musk’s lawyer for leading the witness. At one point Gonzalez Rogers asked Molo: “Are you giving testimony?”
The tone of the questions and Musk’s demeanor noticeably shifted as soon as OpenAI’s lead counsel William Savitt began his cross-examination. Over a series of rapid-fire questions, Savitt presented Musk with email exchanges from his time at OpenAI and tried to show that Musk was always aware of the company’s potential for-profit plans.
At one point, Savitt asked Musk: “OpenAI was formed as a nonprofit in 2015. True or false?” After prevaricating, Musk said: “In this case, yes.” But then he went on: “The reason you can’t simply answer a yes or no question, for example if you ask, ‘Have you stopped beating your wife … ’”Judge Gonzalez Rogers stopped him from finishing, as several people audibly gasped.
Much of Savitt’s questioning focused on internal emails and text messages about whether Musk wanted to create a for-profit, which included an email from within Musk’s company Neuralink, where Musk wrote that “setting it up as a nonprofit might be the wrong move”. One later document introduced into evidence included notes from an event that Savitt referred to as the “haunted mansion meeting”, since it took place in a supposedly haunted mansion that Musk had just bought in San Francisco. According to the notes, Musk suggested creating a for-profit at that meeting.
Musk’s common response to these questions about creating a for-profit was: “I don’t think creating a for-profit as an adjunct to a non-profit is breaking a promise.”
Tesla was also a central point of questioning. Savitt, the OpenAI lawyer, pointed out that Musk was on OpenAI’s board through February 2018, which entailed a legal obligation to act in the best interest of the company, but simultaneously was allegedly poaching employees for Tesla, including the renowned engineer Andrej Karpathy. In one email from June 2017 with Jim Keller, the vice-president of autopilot at Tesla, Musk said, “The OpenAI guys are going to want to kill me” regarding him recruiting Karpathy.
Savitt questioned Musk about Tesla’s pursuits with artificial general intelligence, submitting several documents into evidence, including one in which Musk said he plans to build an “enormous AI-enabled robot army”.
“If we build the robots, I wanted to make sure we’re safe and we don’t have a terminator situation,” Musk testified.
Peripheral to the legal showdown, the court was packed on Wednesday with a mix of media and eager young men who lined up before dawn to get a glimpse – and a picture – of Musk. Judge Gonzalez Rogers at one point threatened that if observers did not stop taking photos and videos, a violation of the court’s rules, she would shut down an overflow room for watching the proceedings.
Earlier in the day, Musk gave testimony that outlined his version of how OpenAI was founded in 2015. Musk claimed that the company only existed because of an alarming conversation about AI he had had with Google co-founder Larry Page, which made him believe that he needed to build a counterpoint or Page would doom humanity.
Musk’s own lawyers have tried to paint him as a tech pioneer who is deeply invested in helping humanity. As Molo started his line of questioning on Wednesday, he showed Musk emails from OpenAI engineers praising him for his tech knowledge. He also showed him a document where Musk called OpenAI’s safety team “jackasses”, and asked him what he meant.
Musk said the “jackass” statement was a joke. “I don’t yell at people, basically,” Musk said. “You occasionally have to use strong language to get people to change their course.”
During his testimony, Musk said his concerns about OpenAI shifting from its non-profit status started in about 2017. He claimed that an email exchange with Altman at the time showed Musk questioning whether Altman had gone back on his initial promises, and that Musk suspected they “actually wanted to create a for-profit where they had the majority of control”.
Musk called himself a “fool” for providing OpenAI funding to create a billion-dollar company. He testified that he cautiously continued funding OpenAI, paying its rent and sending $5m quarterly payments, because he received assurances from Altman that the company would remain a non-profit. Musk said he left OpenAI’s board because he was too busy with his other businesses, but that he had believed the company would remain a non-profit.
Musk’s departure from the board likewise is a point of contention. OpenAI says that Musk left following an attempt to take control of the company and proposing it merge with Tesla. OpenAI also argued Musk was aware of plans to create a for-profit and that its non-profit still technically oversees the business.
Musk testified that it was not until late 2022, about the time that ChatGPT was released, that he felt he’d been hoodwinked. “I lost trust in Altman, and I was really concerned they were trying to steal a charity, and it turned out to be true,” he said, one of the many times Musk repeated the accusation of the theft of a non-profit.
The trial is being extremely closely watched in Silicon Valley as it pits two of the tech industry’s most powerful men against each other and promises to intensify their feud. Altman and Musk have openly sniped at each other on social media in the lead-up to the trial, causing the judge to request that both parties keep their posts to a minimum.
Investors and other AI companies are also keeping an eye on the trial because it threatens severe consequences for OpenAI. The company is seeking to go public on the US stock market later this year at about a $1tn valuation, and any changes to its leadership or corporate structure would threaten that IPO.
The trial is taking place in a federal court in Oakland, California, where a nine-person jury will decide on Musk’s claims. If OpenAI is found liable, however, the judge will be the one to decide on any remedy. The trial is expected to last around three weeks.
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Germany says it expected Trump’s withdrawal of US troops as row over Iran comments grows – live | US-Israel war on Iran
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Nato says it is working with US to understand decision to withdraw troops from Germany
Nato spokesperson Allison Hart said the alliance was working with the US to understand its decision to pull 5,000 American troops from Germany.
Echoing earlier remarks by the German defence minister (see post at 9:35), Hart said the move “underscores the need for Europe to continue to invest more in defence and take on a greater share of the responsibility” for the region’s security.
In a statement on X, she said:
We are working with the US to understand the details of their decision on force posture in Germany. This adjustment underscores the need for Europe to continue to invest more in defence and take on a greater share of the responsibility for our shared security – where we’re already seeing progress since allies agreed to invest 5% of GDP at the Nato Summit in The Hague last year. We remain confident in our ability to provide for our deterrence and defence as this shift towards a stronger Europe in a stronger Nato continues.
Why does the US have military bases in Germany?

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The US is withdrawing 5,000 troops from Germany, days after the German chancellor, Friedrich Merz, suggested Washington was being outplayed and “humiliated” by Iran.
The US president had earlier said a “determination” on the US military presence in Germany, seen as a key part of Nato’s defences but also vital for the projection of US power in other parts of the world, would be made “over the next short period of time”.
In this explainer, we look at why the US has military bases in Germany, what role they play, and how Trump’s threat to wind them down may not benefit the US:
As a reminder on Iran’s new peace proposal, state media reported that Tehran handed the offer to Pakistan on Thursday night, to pass on to Washington, though its contents were not immediately clear.
Commenting on the proposal last night, Donald Trump said: “They’re asking for things I can’t agree to.”
Pakistan, which is working to restart US-Iran talks in Islamabad, said it believes a deal is within reach, but there has been no reported progress since the failed round of negotiations on 11 and 12 April.
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Iran says war with US will ‘likely’ resume
A senior Iranian military official said renewed fighting between the US and Iran was “likely”, according to the Iran’s semi-official Fars news agency.
The statement followed reports that Donald Trump was “not satisfied” with a new Iranian proposal to end the war. Iran delivered the proposal to mediator Pakistan on Thursday evening, Iranian state media reported, without detailing its contents.
“At this moment I’m not satisfied with what they’re offering,” the US president said yesterday. He did not elaborate on what he saw as the latest proposal’s shortcomings but blamed stalled talks on “tremendous discord” within Iran’s leadership.
A ceasefire has halted the fighting since 8 April, and attempts have been made for peace talks in Pakistan since then.
Mohammad Jafar Asadi, a senior figure in the Iranian military’s central command, said “a renewed conflict between Iran and the United States is likely”, in quotes published by Fars this morning.
“Evidence has shown that the United States is not adhering to any promises or agreements,” he added.
“The actions and statements of American officials are mostly media-oriented, firstly to prevent the fall in oil prices and secondly to get out of the predicament they have created themselves.
“The armed forces are fully prepared for any new American adventure and folly.”
German defence minister says American troops in Europe ‘in our interest and in the US’s’
The German defence minister, Boris Pistorius, has called on European allies to shoulder more responsibility for their security, after the US announced it would withdraw 5,000 US troops from Germany.
Pistorius said the presence of American soldiers in Europe was “in our interest and in the interest of the United States”, but added: “It was foreseeable that the US would withdraw troops from Europe, including Germany.
“We Europeans must take greater responsibility for our security.”
Germany is the US military’s biggest basing location in Europe, with about 35,000 active-duty military personnel, and serves as a key training hub.
On Friday, the Pentagon said the withdrawal of troops was expected to be completed over the next six to 12 months.
The announcement came amid a public feud between the US president, Donald Trump, and German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, after the European leader said the US was being “humiliated” by Iran.
Pistorius said Germany was “on the right track” in taking steps to strengthen the country’s defence capabilities, as he pointed to the expansion of its Bundeswehr armed forces, greater and faster procurement of equipment and the construction of infrastructure.
You can read last night’s report on this story here:
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The German defence minister, Boris Pistorius, said that it was “foreseeable” that the US would withdraw troops from Europe, after the Pentagon announced it would pull thousands of American soldiers from Germany.
US President Donald Trump said on Friday that the US will withdraw 5,000 active-duty troops from Nato ally Germany in the next six to 12 months, fulfilling his earlier threats after clashing with German chancellor Friedrich Merz over the Iran war.
Earlier this week, Merz said Iran had “humiliated” the US and questioned how Trump planned to end the conflict, saying: “The Americans obviously have no strategy.”
Responding to the announcement of plans to withdraw 5,000 US troops from Germany, Pistorius said: “It was foreseeable that the US would withdraw troops from Europe, including Germany.”
He added that Europeans must take greater responsibility for their own security, and that Germany was “on the right track” in this regard.
In other developments:
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Trump said he is “not satisfied” with a new proposal from Iran on ending the war, as peace talks remain stalled despite a weeks-long ceasefire. Iran delivered the proposal text to mediator Pakistan on Thursday evening, Iranian state news agency Irna reported, without detailing its contents.
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The US state department said it was approving military sales totalling more than $8.6bn to Middle Eastern allies Israel, Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates. It came as Washington warned European allies including the UK, Poland, Lithuania and Estonia to expect long delivery delays for US weapons as it scrambles to replenish stockpiles depleted by the Iran war, according to a report in the Fianancial Times citing multiple sources.
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In Lebanon, 12 people were killed in Israeli strikes in the south, Lebanon’s health ministry said, including in the town of Habboush, where the Israeli army had issued an evacuation order despite the continuing ceasefire. Israeli warplanes “launched a series of heavy strikes … less than an hour after” the warning, the state-run National News Agency said.
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The US Treasury Office warned that any shipping companies that paid tolls to Iran for passage through the strait of Hormuz, including charitable donations to organisations such as the Iranian Red Crescent Society, would risk punitive sanctions. Tehran has proposed charging fees on vessels passing through the strait, as part of a deal to end the war.
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Trump wrote to US lawmakers on Friday declaring hostilities with Iran “terminated”, despite no change in the US military posture, as he faces continuing pressure at home to seek congressional authorisation for the war.
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The state department’s announcement on Friday included approving military sales to Qatar of Patriot air and missile defence replenishment services costing $4.01bn and of advanced precision kill weapon systems (APKWS) costing $992.4m. They also included approval of the sale to Kuwait of an integrated battle command system costing $2.5bn and to Israel of APKWS costing $992.4m.
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Iran’s supreme leader Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei urged his people to wage economic battle and “disappoint” its enemies, as the war and years of sanctions take a toll. In a written statement he also said “the owners of damaged businesses should avoid, as much as possible, layoffs and separation of their workforce”.
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Yoko Ono trademark challenge leaves sour taste for John Lemon beer maker | France
A Brittany brewer is in a squeeze after Yoko Ono ordered him to stop selling a bestselling craft beer labelled John Lemon.
The Japanese-American artist and widow of the Beatles star John Lennon claimed it was a breach of a trademark she had registered a decade ago to stop her late husband being mocked, his name misused and his reputation sullied.
Aurélien Picard, the owner of L’Imprimerie brewery in Bannalec, near Finistère, said it had been selling bottles of the lemon and ginger-flavoured craft beer for five years.
He said the name and label, featuring a caricature of the rock legend wearing glasses made of lemon slices, was meant to be a joke and tribute to the singer-songwriter, who was murdered in New York in 1980. Underneath the image are the words “Get Bock” – a play on the word for a strong German lager and the Beatles’ 1969 hit, Get Back.
“It was just a bit of fun: a label to raise a smile,” Picard said. “We have lots of beers with puns on the names of stars and have never had a problem before.”
However, last month Picard received a letter from Ono’s lawyers ordering him to immediately stop using the name or he would face a fine for each day he refused.
“At first, I thought it was a fake, some kind of scam,” Picard told the Guardian. “It was only when I went online to check the lawyers really did exist [that I] found that there had been other cases, I wasn’t the only one to have used that pun, and that people had been penalised.
“The lawyers’ letter warned if I didn’t stop selling the beer, I could be ordered to pay €100,000 immediately, and another €1,500 every day until I stopped. That was really scary.”
He added: “We had no idea the trademark John Lemon had been registered, and anyway, we didn’t even think to check.”
Picard said he was surprised Ono would bother with such small beer.
“We’re only a tiny outfit, with me running it and two employees. I explained to the lawyers that we don’t sell in supermarkets. We deliver our bottles ourselves to bars and crêperies in our local area and asked if they would give me time to sell the bottles that had were already labelled.”
After an exchange of letters, the brewery has been allowed to sell its remaining stock of 5,000 bottles of John Lemon beer before 1 July.
Picard said they were disappearing fast. “People are coming from all over Brittany to get a souvenir beer with the label. It’ll become a collector’s item, with the addition of a lovely story to recount to friends,” he said.
Picard set up the brewery in a former print works in 2017. The first beers were named after elements of the printing press; more recent creations have been named after French and international stars.
The beer is still listed on the brewery’s website, but without any name or picture. Other beers include Jean Gol Potier – La Blonde Parfumée (perfumed blond), a tribute to the fashion designer Jean Paul Gaultier.
In 2017, Ono took legal action to halt the sale of a Polish lemonade called John Lemon. Her lawyers said the use of the name infringed the trademark she had reportedly registered the previous year to protect her late husband’s name and personal rights.
Other companies have gone head-to-head with celebrities over product puns. The actor Pedro Pascal is in a legal battle with a Chilean pisco spirit merchant who chose Pedro Piscal for his brand, while a Chilean honey business calling itself Miel Gibson was allowed to keep its name after the actor sued and a bakery in Santiago called Superpan won the right to use images of Clark Kent and his “S” symbol. The South American country also boasts a car wash called Star Wash and a printing business called Harry Plotter.
Back in Brittany, Picard insists he is not bitter. He is now considering renaming the beer Jaune Lemon (Yellow Lemon).
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